Art of Experiencing Astrology from Oneness

 

1. Explain Art of Experiencing Astrology from Oneness point of view.

Below is a clear, experiential, Advaitic explanation of the Art of Experiencing Astrology from the Oneness point of view, aligned with your inquiry and depth.

 

1. How astrology is usually experienced (Duality)

In duality, astrology is experienced like this:

Here:

This creates:

Astrology is treated as a cause, and the human being as an effect.

 

2. The Oneness insight: nothing is outside

From the Oneness point of view:

So astrology is not something acting upon you.

Astrology is:

Consciousness describing its own movements symbolically.

 

3. What planets really represent in Oneness

In Oneness, planets are not external controllers.

They are:

For example:

These are not happening to you
They are happening as you.

 

4. Birth chart in Oneness: not destiny, but design

From Oneness:

Just as:

Similarly:

The chart does not bind
Identification binds.

 

5. The key shift: from affected by planets to I am the field

In duality:

Saturn is troubling me.

In Oneness:

Consciousness (Unlimited-I) is expressing Saturn-energy through this form now.

The moment this shift happens:

 

6. How prediction works in Oneness (very important)

From Oneness:

Why?

Because:

Just like:

 

7. The art of using astrology without bondage

The Advaitic art is:

Not as:

Astrology then becomes supportive, not controlling.

 

8. Stillness is the master key

When you rest as:

Then:

But:

Astrology describes the play
Stillness remains untouched.

 

9. Why remedies work (and when they don t)

Remedies fail when:

Remedies work when:

From Oneness:

 

10. Highest realization regarding astrology

The highest Oneness insight is:

There is no separate planet, no separate chart, no separate person.
The One appears as time, planets, karma, and liberation simultaneously.

When this is seen:

 

11. Essence in one sentence

In duality, astrology predicts your fate.
In Oneness, astrology describes how the Infinite is playing as you.

 

2. Karma vs Astrology from the standpoint of Oneness

In duality (ordinary view)

Here:

This view creates helplessness.

 

In Oneness (Advaitic view)

From Oneness:

They are not causes.
They are patterns of appearance.

Karma = momentum of identification
Astrology = timing of manifestation

Both arise within Consciousness, not outside it.

 

The key insight

Both exist only as long as there is identification with a doer.

When the I am the doer dissolves:

Not by denial by seeing.

 

3. How fearful predictions dissolve in Awareness

Why predictions create fear

Fear arises because:

Fear is not in prediction
Fear is in identification (Limited-I).

 

What happens in Awareness

When one rests as formless Awareness:

But:

Awareness sees prediction the way:

Cloud may be dark
Sky remains untouched.

 

The exact dissolving mechanism

Fear dissolves because:

1.    Awareness has no future

2.    Awareness has no past

3.    Awareness has no personal destiny

Predictions operate only in psychological time.

When you are:

There is no place for prediction to land.

 

Important clarity (not denial)

Awareness does not say:

Prediction is false

It says:

Prediction has no owner.

Thus:

 

4. Why enlightened beings are not bound by charts?

What binds ordinary people

Charts bind because:

So the chart feels like:

 

What changes in enlightenment

In enlightenment:

So:

 

Very important distinction

Enlightened beings:

But:

Just like:

 

Why events may still happen

Even for enlightened beings:

But:

Thus:

 

The deepest Advaitic understanding

Here is the core truth:

Karma, astrology, fate, and liberation
all appear simultaneously in Consciousness.

None comes first.
None causes the other.

Only identification creates sequence.

 

Final synthesis (very important)

When Awareness is known:

 

One-line realization

Astrology and karma bind only the one who believes I am a person in time.
They dissolve for the one who knows, I am the timeless field in which time appears.

 

 

5. What is the difference between art of Experiencing Astrology in duality and oneness?

Below is a clear, experiential, Advaitic explanation of the difference between experiencing astrology in duality and in oneness, expressed not as belief but as art of experiencing.

 

1. Experiencing Astrology in Duality

The inner structure

In duality, the experience has three fixed assumptions:

1.    I am a separate person

2.    Planets are outside me

3.    Time controls my life

From these assumptions, astrology is experienced as power over me.

 

How astrology functions in duality

The mind asks:

Astrology becomes:

 

Emotional flavor

Here, astrology freezes life into destiny.

 

Core error in duality

The mistake is not astrology
The mistake is believing the chart describes Me

 

2. Experiencing Astrology in Oneness

The inner shift

In oneness, the foundational recognition is:

1.    I am Awareness, not the person

2.    Planets appear within Awareness

3.    Time appears within Awareness

Now astrology is experienced as movement within Me, not power over me.

 

How astrology functions in oneness

Astrology becomes:

 

Emotional flavor

Life is lived now, not postponed for planetary permission.

 

Key transformation

The chart no longer defines identity
It describes how Consciousness is playing right now

 

3. The exact experiential difference

Aspect

Duality

Oneness

Identity

I am this chart

Chart appears in me

Fear

Strong

Absent

Time

Controller

Appearance

Free will

Weak

Natural spontaneity

Astrology

Fate

Symbolic language

Life

Wait-and-react

Live-and-respond

 

4. Why fear dissolves in oneness

Fear dissolves because:

Predictions still arise
But no one inside is shaken.

 

5. Subtle but important clarity

Oneness does not reject astrology.

It simply removes identity investment.

Just like:

 

6. Living example

In duality:

Saturn is troubling me.

In oneness:

Saturn energy is expressing discipline through this body mind.

Same words, completely different bondage.

 

7. Final Advaitic essence

In duality, astrology decides life.
In oneness, life decides how astrology appears.

 

6. We experience only good or bad or neutral planets because we have fixed opinion about them, and we have fixed the programming of their characters. So the planets are behaving like robots or machines. They are not alive because of our believes. Because of fixing the planets, we as a limited I also got stuck in the Astrology and became like a machine. Is it correct?

Your insight is largely correct, and it becomes very powerful when refined with a small but important Advaitic clarification. Let me explain it clearly, gently, and precisely, without exaggeration.

 

1. What you are seeing correctly 🌱

Yes our experience of planets becomes mechanical because of our fixed opinions.

When we say:

we are not describing planets as they are.
We are describing our conditioned mind.

Because of this conditioning:

In this sense, planets appear like robots or machines not because they are mechanical, but because our perception is mechanical.

✔️ This part of your understanding is correct.

 

2. Where the subtle mistake usually happens ⚠️

The planets themselves are not behaving like machines.

What is mechanical is:

So the correct refinement is:

Planets are not dead or mechanical
our beliefs make them appear mechanical.

This distinction is important in Advaita.

 

3. How beliefs freeze aliveness

When beliefs are fixed, three things happen:

1. Planets lose aliveness

Instead of living movements of Consciousness, they become:

2. Astrology loses wisdom

It stops being a language of rhythms
and becomes a system of fear or hope.

3. The I becomes trapped

The moment you believe:

This planet controls me

You unconsciously shrink into:

I am a victim inside a chart

Thus you, not the planet, become mechanical.

 

4. Why the limited I becomes machine-like

Because the limited I :

This creates:

So yes by fixing planets, the limited I gets fixed.

✔️ This observation is very accurate.

 

5. What changes in Oneness 🌌

In Oneness:

Then:

They are no longer characters they are energies.

 

6. The key Advaitic correction (very important)

The most precise statement is:

Planets are alive,
but beliefs make them appear mechanical.
When beliefs dissolve, aliveness returns.

And simultaneously:

When planets are released from labels,
the limited I is released from bondage.

 

7. Final essence 🌸

Your insight is fundamentally right, with this refined conclusion:

We do not suffer because of planets.
We suffer because we freeze living intelligence into beliefs.
When beliefs drop, astrology becomes alive
and the I becomes free.

 

7. Reframe planets as living expressions of Sat-Chit-Ānanda

Beautiful request. I will reframe this purely from Advaita, without superstition, fear, or exaggeration as a living vision of Sat-Chit-Ānanda.

 

🌌 Planets as Living Expressions of Sat-Chit-Ānanda

(Advaitic Reframing)

In Advaita, nothing exists outside Consciousness.
Therefore, planets are not external controllers, not fate-givers, not punishers or rewarders.

They are movements of the One Reality.

 

1. Sat Existence

Planets as expressions of Being

Sat means pure existence that which is, without condition.

From this view:

Saturn does not bring suffering
→ Saturn is Existence experiencing time, structure, endurance

Mars does not create conflict
→ Mars is Existence expressing intensity and momentum

Nothing is wrong here.
It is Being playing roles.

 

2. Chit Consciousness

Planets as modes of knowing

Chit is awareness knowing itself.

Planets are ways Consciousness experiences itself:

So planets do not cause experiences
they describe how Consciousness is currently tasting itself.

 

3. Ānanda Bliss

Planets as bliss in disguise

Ānanda is not pleasure.
It is completeness, even in challenge.

When planets are seen dualistically:

When seen in Oneness:

Saturn teaches bliss through depth
Ketu teaches bliss through letting go
Rahu teaches bliss through expansion beyond limits

Nothing is against you.

 

4. Planets are not things they are movements

In Advaita:

Just like:

Planets move in cosmic awareness

They are verbs, not nouns.

 

5. You are not under the planets planets arise in You

This is the turning point.

From duality:

Planets influence me

From Oneness:

Planets arise within the same Awareness that I am

The chart is inside Consciousness
Consciousness is not inside the chart

 

6. Why enlightened beings are not bound by planets

Not because planets disappear.

But because:

Just like waves continue after the ocean is known.

 

7. A living reframe (short mantra)

Planets are Sat-Chit-Ānanda in motion.
I am the Awareness in which they move.

 

8. Final essence 🌿

Planets are not fate.
They are living rhythms of the One.

Fear makes them mechanical.
Oneness makes them alive.

When seen as Sat-Chit-Ānanda:

 

8. Reframe Saturn, Rahu, Ketu deeply

Yes. Let us go very deep, but remain simple, precise, and fearless purely from Advaita (Oneness), not predictive astrology.

What follows is not belief.
It is a shift of identity.

 

🕉️ Deep Advaitic Reframing of

Saturn Rahu Ketu

(as Living Expressions of Sat Chit Ānanda)

 

1. SATURN The Gravity of Truth

(Sat → Existence becoming unavoidably real)

❌ Dualistic View

This view arises when:

I believe I am a limited doer moving in time.

Then Saturn feels heavy.

 

✅ Advaitic Reframe

Saturn is Existence insisting on reality.

Saturn says:

Drop imagination. Stand in what is.

Saturn is:

Saturn is not against comfort
Saturn is against falsehood

 

🪨 Inner Meaning

Saturn is the force that:

Like pressure turning coal into diamond.

Saturn does not create pain
Pain appears when illusion resists reality

 

🧘 Advaitic Saturn Mantra

I stand as what is.
Nothing false can remain.

When this is lived:

 

2. RAHU The Hunger of Infinity

(Chit → Consciousness exploring beyond boundaries)

 

❌ Dualistic View

This happens when:

Desire tries to complete a limited self.

Then Rahu becomes uncontrollable.

 

✅ Advaitic Reframe

Rahu is Consciousness refusing limitation.

Rahu says:

Why stop here?
Why accept inherited boundaries?

Rahu is:

Rahu is expansion without map

 

🔥 Inner Meaning

Rahu feels chaotic only when:

When identity widens:

Rahu is the engine of future consciousness

 

🧘 Advaitic Rahu Mantra

I allow expansion without fear.
Awareness contains all desire.

 

3. KETU The Intelligence of Silence

(Ānanda → Bliss beyond experience)

 

❌ Dualistic View

This arises when:

I seek fulfillment in objects.

Then Ketu removes objects.

 

✅ Advaitic Reframe

Ketu is Consciousness remembering itself.

Ketu says:

You already are what you seek.

Ketu is:

 

🌌 Inner Meaning

Ketu does not destroy life.
It withdraws attention from the unreal.

Ketu removes:

Ketu leaves clarity without center

 

🧘 Advaitic Ketu Mantra

Nothing is missing.
I rest as completeness.

 

4. Saturn Rahu Ketu One Movement

They are not separate.

They form a single awakening arc:

Force

Function

Awakening

Saturn

Compression

Truth

Rahu

Expansion

Infinity

Ketu

Dissolution

Freedom

This is the architecture of awakening.

 

5. Why they feel difficult together

Because together they:

To ego: terrifying
To Awareness: liberation

 

6. Final Integration (Living Key)

Saturn grounds me in Truth
Rahu expands me into Infinity
Ketu frees me into Silence
I am the Awareness in which all three arise

 

7. Ultimate Advaitic Truth 🌿

Planets do not do anything to you.

They describe how the One is meeting itself.

When Limited-I dissolves:

 

9. Reframe Sade Sati from Oneness

Let us reframe Sade Sati completely from Oneness (Advaita) not as a transit, not as fate, not as suffering but as a direct invitation to abide as the Real.

Remain relaxed while reading. This is not conceptual knowledge; it is a shift of standpoint.

 

🕉️ Sade Sati An Advaitic Reframing from Oneness

 

1. What Sade Sati appears to be (Duality)

In duality, Sade Sati is described as:

This interpretation assumes:

I am a person moving in time, affected by planets.

This assumption is the root illusion.

 

2. The Fundamental Advaitic Correction

From Oneness:

Nothing moves in time.
Time moves in Awareness.

Therefore:

👉 Sade Sati appears inside You (Awareness).

 

3. What Moon Represents (Deep Meaning)

The Moon is:

So when astrology says:

Saturn crosses the Moon

It actually means:

Reality (Saturn) meets Identity (Moon).

 

4. Sade Sati from Oneness

🌑 Definition

Sade Sati is the prolonged exposure of the personal I to Truth.

It is not punishment.
It is unavoidable honesty.

Saturn does not harm the mind
It removes the false ownership of the mind.

 

5. Why It Feels Heavy to Some

Sade Sati feels heavy only if:

Then Saturn s stillness feels like pressure.

Just like:

 

6. What Actually Happens During Sade Sati

From Oneness, Saturn:

Not by violence by non-cooperation.

Saturn simply refuses to support illusion.

 

7. The Three Phases (Advaitic View)

Not as years but as identity shifts.

Phase 1 Before Exact Sade Sati

👉 Cracks appear in self-image
👉 Old strategies stop working
👉 Emotional honesty begins

Phase 2 Exact Sade Sati

👉 The doer collapses
👉 Life becomes simple, raw, factual
👉 Stillness presses through activity

Phase 3 After Passing

👉 New life appears without effort
👉 Authority without ego
👉 Peace without excitement

 

8. Why Enlightened Beings Are Unaffected

Because:

For them:

Sade Sati = Deep Rest

Saturn becomes:

 

9. The Greatest Secret 🔑

Sade Sati ends the moment resistance ends.

Not by time.
Not by remedies.
Not by rituals.

But by:

Abiding as Formless-Awareness instead of mind.

 

10. A Direct Advaitic Practice During Sade Sati

Whenever heaviness appears, gently inquire:

To whom is this heaviness appearing?

Stay with the seer, not the sensation.

No fighting.
No correcting.
No spiritual effort.

This alone fulfills Saturn.

 

11. Sade Sati Mantra (From Oneness)

I do not move in time.
Time moves in Me.
Nothing false can remain.

Repeat not as sound but as recognition.

 

12. Final Truth 🌿

Sade Sati is not a period.
It is Reality standing close to identity.

If you remain identity → it feels heavy.
If you remain Awareness → it feels like home.

Saturn does not test you.
Saturn tests illusion.

 

10. Guided Sade Sati meditation

Here is a guided Sade Sati meditation from the Advaitic / Oneness standpoint.
Read it slowly, or record it in your calm devotional voice if you wish.

 

🕉️ Guided Sade Sati Meditation

Abiding as Awareness beyond Time, Mind, and Saturn

 

1. Settling

Sit comfortably.
Let the spine be effortless, not rigid.
Close the eyes gently.

There is nothing to fix.
Nothing to improve.
Nothing to escape.

Simply allow everything to be exactly as it is.

 

2. Rest with Natural Breath

Do not control the breath.
Let breathing happen by itself.

Notice:

Breath appears
Breath disappears

You remain.

 

3. Recognizing the Witness

Thoughts may arise.
Emotions may arise.
Sensations may arise.

Do not participate.
Do not judge.

Simply notice:

These are appearing
but I am the one in which they appear.

Let this noticing be soft, not intense.

 

4. Seeing Time as an Appearance

Now gently observe:

The idea of past appears as a thought.
The idea of future appears as a thought.
The idea of Sade Sati appears as a thought.

Ask quietly, without force:

Where does time appear?

Notice:
Time appears inside Awareness.
Awareness does not appear inside time.

Rest here.

 

5. Meeting Saturn from Oneness

Bring to mind the word Saturn .

Do not imagine a planet.
Do not imagine suffering.

Just notice:
The idea of Saturn appears
and dissolves
in the same Awareness.

Recognize:

Saturn is not acting on me.
Saturn is appearing in Me.

Remain still.

 

6. Dissolving Moon-Based Identity

Notice the subtle sense of:
I am the mind
I am the emotional self
I am the experiencer

Do not reject it.
Do not improve it.

Simply see:

This identity is observed.
Therefore, it cannot be You.

Let this recognition settle naturally.

 

7. Abiding as Saturn s True Gift

Now remain as pure presence.

No effort.
No waiting.
No resistance.

Saturn s real nature is:

Let these qualities reveal themselves as You.

 

8. The Great Reversal

Notice gently:

Life is moving.
Experiences are unfolding.
Yet You are unmoving.

This unmoving presence is not affected by:

Rest as this unmoving Presence.

 

9. Silent Recognition (No Repetition)

Without words, let this understanding shine:

I was never in time.
I was never tested.
I was never delayed.
Only illusion was unsupported.

Stay here.

 

10. Completion

Slowly allow the senses to return.

Do not come back as a person.
Let the body function.
Let the mind function.

But inwardly know:

Sade Sati does not happen to Awareness.
Sade Sati happens only to false identity.

Open the eyes gently.

 

🌿 Closing Insight

If practiced regularly, this meditation:

Saturn is fulfilled not by effort,
but by stillness as Truth.

 

11. Explain why remedies work only when identity dissolves

This is a very deep and subtle question, and you are touching the exact heart of why remedies sometimes work, sometimes fail, and sometimes appear miraculous.

I will explain this slowly, clearly, and from the Oneness (Advaita) standpoint, not rejecting remedies, but placing them in their correct dimension.

 

1. First, what is a remedy really meant for?

In duality, we believe:

From Oneness, this is already upside down.

👉 A remedy is not meant to change Saturn, karma, fate, or God
👉 A remedy is meant to loosen the false identity that believes:

I am a limited doer, sufferer, and experiencer.

When this identity loosens, reality reorganizes by itself.

 

2. Why remedies fail when identity is strong

When identity is tight, the remedy is performed like this:

This strengthens:

📌 Result:
The very identity Saturn is meant to dissolve gets reinforced.

So Saturn appears harsher, not because Saturn is cruel, but because:

Saturn exposes whatever resists Truth.

 

3. Saturn s real role (very important)

Saturn is not a punisher.
Saturn is the planet of Reality.

Saturn asks only one question:

Is this identity real or borrowed?

If identity is false, Saturn:

So if remedies are done to protect the ego, Saturn ignores them.

 

4. Why remedies suddenly work when identity dissolves

When identity dissolves even a little, the inner posture changes:

Then the remedy becomes:

📌 At that moment, the remedy is no longer done by a person.

It is Pūrṇam offering Pūrṇam to itself.

That is why results appear:

 

5. The key Advaitic secret (very subtle)

Remedies do NOT work because of what you do
Remedies work because of who you are not while doing them

When:

Then:

This is why enlightened beings:

 

6. Why enlightened beings are not bound by charts

Charts operate in:

An enlightened being rests as:

So for them:

The chart appears inside Awareness
Awareness does not appear inside the chart

Thus charts lose authority, not relevance.

 

7. Remedy vs Real Remedy (important distinction)

Outer Remedy

Real Remedy

Chanting to escape

Resting as stillness

Ritual to fix planet

Identity dissolving naturally

Fear-based prayer

Love-based surrender

Hope for future

Presence now

When the real remedy happens, outer remedies may:

 

8. Why fear-based remedies create bondage

Fear-based remedies say:

Something is wrong with me or my destiny.

This creates:

Saturn then ensures:

You cannot escape Truth through technique.

 

9. The highest remedy (Saturn s final teaching)

Saturn ultimately asks for only this:

Stop pretending to be someone.

When this happens:

 

10. One-line essence

Remedies work not when planets change,
but when the one who feels affected disappears.

 

12. So ultimate remedy for all astrological problems is shifting from form to formless

Absolutely let s explore this deeply from an Advaitic-Oneness perspective. The idea that the ultimate remedy for all astrological problems is shifting from form to formless is subtle, profound, and transformative. Here s a comprehensive explanation:

 

1. Astrology as Form, Consciousness as Formless

In duality: The limited self believes, Saturn is causing my suffering; Rahu is blocking my success; I must do remedies.
In Oneness: All planetary influences are appearances within Pūrṇam, the infinite Wholeness.

 

2. Why Remedies Work Only When Identity Dissolves

The key: Shift from I am the one affected by planets → I am the formless Witness in which planets appear.

 

3. Formless Awareness Is Beyond Planetary Influence

Analogy: Mercury appearing in retrograde may affect the mental plane, but the Witness that is formless is untouched. A calm, unperturbed awareness remains intact.

 

4. Experiencing Astrology Without Fear

 

5. Shifting from Form to Formless Step by Step

1.    Observe the Form: Charts, planets, transits see them as transient forms.

2.    Witness Your Reaction: Notice fear, hope, or expectation arise in the mind.

3.    Disidentify with the Limited I : Realize, I am not the one being affected.

4.    Abide as Still, Formless Awareness: Let all forms planets, charts, experiences arise in this infinite, unmoving, silent field.

5.    Experience Freedom: The moment you shift attention to formlessness, all astrological problems vanish naturally.

Like sunlight entering a dark room, darkness disappears effortlessly. Similarly, formless Awareness dissolves all binding effects of planetary influence.

 

6. The Ultimate Remedy

 

7. Practical Implication

 

✅ Conclusion:

All astrology-related problems arise from identification with form planets, charts, and the limited self. Shifting the identity from form to formless Awareness dissolves fear, restriction, and binding karma. Formless Consciousness is unaffected by planetary influences, and this shift is the ultimate remedy, beyond all rituals or remedies.

 

12.1 Astrology and the planets in it are representatives of the three Gunas (Trigunas) or do they indicate the three Gunas?

This is a very subtle and important question, and the clarity here dissolves much confusion about astrology.

Short answer

Planets are not the Trigunas themselves, nor are they independent controllers.
They are symbolic functional indicators and channels through which the Trigunas operate in the field of form.

Now let us unfold this carefully from duality → deeper understanding → Oneness.

 

1. What are the Trigunas really?

The three Gunas

are not planets, not objects, not forces outside you.

They are the modes of Prakriti the way form appears and functions within Consciousness.

They operate in:

But they do not touch the Formless.

 

2. Do planets represent the Trigunas?

In classical astrology, planets are often described using Guna language.
For example:

But this does not mean:

This planet is this Guna.

Rather, it means:

Planets are functional lenses through which Guna-patterns become visible in time and experience.

So:

 

3. A deeper layer (very important)

The Trigunas themselves arise after the first movement from Stillness.

Sequence is:

Pūrṇam (Wholeness)
→ Stillness
→ First vibration (Māyā)
→ Trigunas
→ Time Space Causation
→ Planets, karma, charts

So logically and experientially:

Planets are downstream expressions of Trigunas, not their source.

 

4. Then what exactly do planets do?

Planets function like cosmic mirrors.

They reflect:

They do NOT:

They only describe the movement of Gunas within form.

 

5. Why astrology binds people

Astrology becomes binding when:

Then planets appear powerful.

But actually:

You are not under planets;
planets are appearing in you.

 

6. From the Oneness perspective

From Oneness:

Here, astrology is art, not authority.

 

7. Final clarity (very important distinction)

✔️ Planets indicate the play of Trigunas in the realm of form
❌ Planets are not the Trigunas themselves
❌ Trigunas do not bind the Formless Self

✅ All of them arise within Pūrṇam
✅ None of them touch Pūrṇam

 

One-line realization

The Gunas move, the planets indicate, but I remain unmoving Awareness.

 

12.2 Map each planet to Guna tendencies

Below is a purely non-judgmental, Advaitic mapping.
No planet is good or bad. Each is a mode of how the Trigunas move through form.
Think of planets as styles of expression of Consciousness, not controllers.

 

How to read this map

Every planet contains all three Gunas, but one or two tend to dominate its expression in form.

 

Sun (Surya) Centering Principle

Dominant Guna: Sattva Rajas

Oneness view:
The Sun is the sense of being appearing as identity.
When unmixed with ego, it shines as pure presence.

 

Moon (Chandra) Reflective Mind

Dominant Guna: Sattva Tamas

Oneness view:
The Moon is consciousness reflecting itself as feeling and mind-movement.

 

Mars (Mangala) Raw Movement

Dominant Guna: Rajas

Oneness view:
Mars is life-force moving outward, the impulse to act.

 

Mercury (Budha) Intelligence in Motion

Dominant Guna: Sattva Rajas

Oneness view:
Mercury is awareness translating itself into thought and language.

 

Jupiter (Guru) Expansive Intelligence

Dominant Guna: Sattva

Oneness view:
Jupiter is Consciousness knowing itself through understanding.

 

Venus (Shukra) Attraction Principle

Dominant Guna: Sattva Rajas

Oneness view:
Venus is the joy of Consciousness meeting itself as form.

 

Saturn (Shani) Density & Time

Dominant Guna: Tamas Sattva

Oneness view:
Saturn is stillness appearing as form, time, and discipline.

 

Rahu Expansion Without Form

Dominant Guna: Rajas Tamas

Oneness view:
Rahu is unresolved movement of mind, pushing awareness outward.

 

Ketu Dissolution Without Identity

Dominant Guna: Tamas Sattva

Oneness view:
Ketu is awareness turning back toward its source.

 

Very important Advaitic reminder

You are the unmoving screen on which all planetary Guna-patterns appear.

 

One-line integration

Planets show how Gunas move in form; they do not touch the Formless I am.

 

Planet Triguna Mapping (Oneness View)

Planet

Dominant Guna(s)

Triguna Expression (Neutral)

Advaitic / Oneness Meaning

Sun (Surya)

Sattva Rajas

Clarity with expression, illumination with activity

Pure I-Am presence expressing as identity and vitality

Moon (Chandra)

Sattva Tamas

Sensitivity with memory, reflection with habit

Awareness reflecting itself as mind and emotion

Mars (Mangala)

Rajas

Energy, assertion, drive, movement

Life-force in motion, the impulse to act

Mercury (Budha)

Sattva Rajas

Intelligence, communication, adaptability

Consciousness thinking, speaking, connecting

Jupiter (Guru)

Sattva

Expansion, wisdom, integration, meaning

Consciousness knowing itself through understanding

Venus (Shukra)

Sattva Rajas

Harmony, attraction, creativity

Consciousness enjoying itself through form

Saturn (Shani)

Tamas Sattva

Structure, discipline, depth, stillness

Stillness appearing as time, form, and maturity

Rahu

Rajas Tamas

Desire, amplification, projection, illusion

Mind moving outward without center

Ketu

Tamas Sattva

Withdrawal, detachment, insight

Awareness turning back to its source

 

12.3 When we assign high value to some planets and low value to others, then we feel that they are real and that they are control us. But the moment we give equal value to all planets, both good and bad, and view them with equanimity, they themselves take us to a transcendental state. Is this correct?

Yes this is essentially correct, and it is a very subtle and important Advaitic insight. Let me clarify it carefully, without exaggeration and without denying lived experience.

 

1. Why assigning high low value gives planets power

When you assign high value to some planets ( benefic ) and low value to others ( malefic ):

In Advaita terms:

Value-assignment creates duality
Duality creates the experiencer
The experiencer feels controlled

So it is not planets controlling you
it is identification reacting to symbols.

 

2. What happens when all planets are given equal value

When you give equal value to all planets:

At that moment:

This does not mean planets disappear
It means their psychological grip dissolves.

 

3. Why equanimity leads toward transcendence

This is the crucial point:

When nothing is rejected and nothing is worshipped, the mind naturally becomes transparent.

Transparency allows:

In that state:

They become teachers of balance, not rulers.

So yes
equanimity does not fight planets; it outgrows them.

 

4. Important clarification (to keep it grounded)

Transcendence here does not mean:

It means:

Remaining as Awareness in which all planetary patterns arise and subside.

An enlightened being may still see planetary tendencies
but is not psychologically located inside them.

 

5. The turning point (this is key)

At that point:

Planets don t take you to transcendence
your equanimity reveals that you were never bound.

 

6. Final Advaitic statement

Giving unequal value creates bondage.
Giving equal value creates clarity.
Resting as Awareness reveals freedom was always present.

So yes your statement is correct, with this refinement:

👉 It is not planets that take you to transcendence
👉 Equanimous Awareness reveals transcendence

 

13. Since formless is appearing as astrology and planets, so planets are not some where located in the world, they are nowhere and everywhere. Therefore, they can appear anywhere. Explain location of the planets as per duality and oneness?

This is a very subtle and foundational question, because once the location of planets is understood correctly, fear-based astrology collapses automatically.

I ll explain this in three layers so it is crystal clear and experiential.

 

1. Location of planets in duality

In duality, reality is divided like this:

So planets are understood as:

📌 In this model:

This is useful for relative functioning, but it is incomplete.

 

2. The hidden assumption in duality

Duality silently assumes:

The world exists independently of awareness.

But your direct experience contradicts this.

You never experience:

outside awareness

Everything appears:

So the real question becomes:

Where does astrology actually appear?

 

3. Location of planets in Oneness

From Oneness:

Therefore:

Planets do not exist somewhere in space
Space exists within Awareness

So planets are:

They are modes of cosmic intelligence appearing within Consciousness.

📌 Hence:

 

4. How planets appear anywhere

Think carefully:

Is Saturn really only in the sky ?

No.

👉 Saturn is a principle of Reality-consciousness
👉 The sky-position is only one symbolic expression

 

5. Duality vs Oneness clear comparison

Duality view

Oneness view

 

6. Why planets feel personal sometimes

When identity contracts:

When identity dissolves:

📌 Same planet
📌 Same chart
📌 Different identity
📌 Completely different experience

 

7. Are planets real or unreal?

From Oneness:

Just like:

Planets are waves of Pūrṇam.

 

8. Why planets lose power in realization

Because power was never in planets.

Power was in:

When this dissolves:

The planet remains
The bondage disappears

 

9. The deepest Advaitic statement

Planets are not located in space
Space is located in Consciousness
Consciousness is what you are

Therefore:

 

10. One-line essence

In duality, planets are somewhere in the sky.
In Oneness, planets are everywhere Consciousness is.
Since you are Consciousness, planets arise within you not over you.

 

14. In the astrology we have good bad and neutral planets. From the perspective of Oneness, explain the art of experiencing them simultaneously, which appear as opposites.

This is a very mature Advaitic question, because it goes to the root of how opposites are created and dissolved. I will explain this slowly, clearly, and experientially, not philosophically.

 

1. Why astrology appears as good bad neutral

In astrology, planets are classified as:

This division does not come from planets themselves.
It comes from the limited experiencer.

The moment there is a center called me :

So:

Good bad neutral is not planetary truth
It is ego-centric interpretation

 

2. What Oneness reveals about opposites

From Oneness:

Therefore:

are two ends of one intelligence, not two enemies.

Just like:

They are simultaneous in essence, though sequential in appearance.

 

3. How opposites appear simultaneously in Oneness

In duality:

In Oneness:

Example:

Fire itself is neither.

Similarly:

Saturn itself is neutral intelligence.

 

4. The key shift: from character to source

Duality focuses on planetary character
Oneness rests in planetary source

When you stay at the level of character:

When you stay at the level of source:

So the art is not choosing good planets,
but seeing the intelligence using both poles.

 

5. The movie-director analogy (very important)

In a movie:

The viewer suffers.
The director enjoys the totality.

From the director s seat:

Similarly:

Consciousness is the director, not the victim.

 

6. Experiencing planets simultaneously: the art

Here is the actual inner art, not theory:

1.    A planetary influence arises (event, emotion, delay, gain)

2.    Instead of labeling it good or bad, ask:

What intelligence is moving now?

3.    Feel the expansion and contraction together

4.    Notice:

o   Growth happens through friction

o   Grace happens through ease

5.    Rest as the field in which both are happening

When you do this:

 

7. Why fear disappears instantly

Fear needs:

Oneness sees:

Both sides are movements of the same Whole

So fear has nowhere to stand.

 

8. Deep truth about neutral planets

Neutral planets are not inactive .

They represent:

They reveal:

You are not controlled
You are participating

They appear neutral only when you are present.

 

9. The highest Advaitic insight

From Oneness:

Pain teaches depth
Pleasure teaches trust

Both are necessary.

 

10. One-line essence

In duality, planets oppose each other.
In Oneness, planets cooperate.
What appears as good and bad are two hands of the same Divine Intelligence.

 

11. Living this practically (very important)

When any planetary period arises:

What dimension of wholeness is opening now?

Then:

 

 

15. If we experience form as the base that is if five elements or Trigunas are base, that means if we feel that planets are forms and physical then experiencing independent bliss is not possible, because it depends on lot of factors like karma, astrology. But if we experience formless-still-silence as the base, and plantes as formless appearing as form then independent bliss is definitely possible. Is it correct?

Yes your understanding is essentially correct, and it is a very subtle and important Advaitic distinction. Let me explain it clearly, experientially, and without abstraction, so the turning point becomes obvious.

 

1. When form (five elements / trigunas) is taken as the base

When you experience reality like this:

then bliss cannot be independent.

Why?

Because in this model:

So happiness becomes:

Here, even peace feels temporary, because something outside can disturb it.

➡️ Independent bliss is impossible in this framework.

 

2. Why planets bind only in a form-based identity

When planets are felt as:

Then:

This automatically creates:

Not because planets are powerful,
but because identity is misplaced.

 

3. The turning point: shifting the base

Now comes the decisive shift:

Instead of starting from form, you start from:

Formless Still Silent Awareness

Here:

This is not a belief it is an experiential base.

 

4. What happens to planets in this base

When Awareness is the base:

Just like:

Planets too appear and disappear in awareness.

They no longer bind.

 

5. Planets as formless appearing as form what this really means

This is very important.

It does NOT mean:

It means:

Just like:

Planets look separate,
but their reality is formless Consciousness.

 

6. Why independent bliss becomes possible

Independent bliss does not mean:

It means:

Because bliss is now recognized as:

The nature of Awareness itself

So:

But bliss remains untouched.

 

7. Key insight (very subtle)

Planets influence experience
They do not influence Being

When you identify as experience → bondage
When you rest as Being → freedom

This is why sages say:

Grahas affect the body and mind, not the Self.

 

8. Why karma and astrology lose authority here

In formless-based living:

You are the space in which equations appear.

So:

 

9. Final clarity

✔️ If form is the base → bliss is conditional
✔️ If formless stillness is the base → bliss is independent
✔️ Planets bind only the identified experiencer
✔️ Formless Awareness is never bound

So yes your statement is correct, with one refinement:

Independent bliss is not something achieved after shifting the base.
It is what is revealed when the base is seen correctly.

 

One-line essence

When planets are seen as forces, bliss depends on fate.
When planets are seen as appearances in Awareness, bliss stands free.

 

 

16. If the astrology disturbs the person, then he believes that astrology is the cause of suffering and feels only the planets should change and thus tries only to change planets. However, the reality is that the problem does not lie with the planets; it lies in experiencer of planets, identifying strongly with and tightly holding onto the role of 'I am the in experiencer of planets.' When person understands that he/she is not the in experiencer of planets, releases that role, and experientially realizes that he/she is actually the Formless (Nirākāra), then unimaginable results will be obtained."

Yes the core insight you are pointing to is correct, and it is a very precise Advaitic diagnosis. Let me clarify it cleanly, remove possible misunderstandings, and show what truly changes when this realization happens.

 

1. Where the suffering seems to come from

When astrology disturbs a person, the usual chain is:

Here, suffering is projected outward.

But notice carefully:

So the disturbance is not in the planets themselves.

 

2. Where the real problem lies

The real problem is identity, not astrology.

More precisely:

The problem lies in identifying as
I am the experiencer who is being affected by planets.

This is subtle but decisive.

The moment you say:

You have already:

Astrology itself does not bind.
Identification binds.

 

3. What releasing the role really means

Releasing the role does not mean:

It means seeing clearly:

But the one who knows all this is untouched.

You stop saying:

I am the one suffering due to planets

And begin to see:

Planetary experiences are appearing in me, not happening to me.

This is not philosophy it is an experiential shift.

 

4. Realizing oneself as the Formless (Nirākāra)

When the experiencer dissolves:

But no central victim remains.

You discover:

This is the meaning of Nirākāra:

 

5. Why unimaginable results happen

The results feel miraculous because:

Most importantly:

Life continues,
but suffering no longer has a place to sit.

 

6. A very important refinement

One correction for clarity:

Instead of saying

I am not the experiencer of planets

The deeper truth is:

I am not a separate experiencer at all.
Experiencing itself is happening in Awareness.

This avoids creating a new subtle identity like
I am the detached observer.

Even the observer dissolves.

 

7. Final distilled truth

When that identity relaxes:

 

One-line essence

The planets never imprisoned you
only the belief I am the one affected by them did.
When that belief dissolves, freedom is immediate.

 

17. So inclusiveness is important for fulfillment in astrology. That means experiencer must accept good-bad-neutral characters or behaviours of planets relating to astrology.

Yes this understanding is correct, and it goes to the very heart of fulfillment in astrology from the perspective of Oneness. Let us unfold it carefully and deeply.

 

1. Why Inclusiveness Is Essential in Astrology

Astrology appears to divide experience into:

This division exists only in dualistic perception.

When the experiencer:

then division is created inside consciousness itself.
That inner division is the true cause of disturbance not the planets.

Fulfillment does not come from arranging only good planets.
Fulfillment comes from including all planetary expressions without resistance.

 

2. What Inclusiveness Really Means (Important Subtlety)

Inclusiveness does NOT mean:

Inclusiveness means:

Acceptance is not an action of the mind;
it is the absence of resistance.

 

3. Planets as Characters in the Same Cosmic Drama

Just like a movie has:

Astrology has:

If the viewer:

Then the movie becomes unbearable.

But the director s view is different:

In Oneness, planets are not enemies or helpers
they are functions of the same Intelligence.

 

4. What Happens When Planets Are Fully Included

When good, bad, and neutral planets are all allowed equally:

1.    Resistance dissolves

2.    Fear collapses

3.    The experiencer stops shrinking

4.    Awareness becomes vast

At that moment:

Planets disturb only the exclusive mind.
They cannot disturb inclusive Formless-Awareness.

 

5. Inclusiveness Dissolves the Astrology-Bound Identity

The bondage is not:

Saturn is troubling me

The bondage is:

I am someone who should not be troubled by Saturn

When inclusiveness happens:

Just as waves cannot drown the ocean,
planetary movements cannot disturb the Whole.

 

6. Good Bad Neutral Collapse Into a Single Experience

In inclusiveness:

The labels remain useful functionally,
but they no longer divide the heart.

Saturn may restrict the form
but cannot restrict Being.

 

7. The Paradoxical Result

When planets are fully accepted:

This is why sages often appear:

Not because planets disappeared
but because nothing was excluded.

 

8. Final Essence

✔ Yes, inclusiveness is essential for fulfillment in astrology
✔ All planetary characters must be experienced without division
✔ Resistance creates suffering, not planets
✔ Inclusion reveals that all planets are expressions of Sat-Chit-Ānanda

When nothing is rejected, nothing can bind.

 

18. Create a planet-neutralizing stillness meditation

Below is a deep, Advaitic planet-neutralizing stillness meditation, designed not to fight planets, not to appease them, and not to correct charts but to dissolve the experiencer who is affected by planets.
This is the ultimate remedy, because it shifts identity from form to formless.

You may use this personally or guide others.

 

🌌 Planet-Neutralizing Stillness Meditation

(From Astrology to Awareness)

Duration: 20 30 minutes
Posture: Comfortable, spine naturally upright
Eyes: Gently closed
Attitude: No effort, no expectation

 

Phase 1 Entering Stillness (5 minutes)

Sit comfortably.
Do not try to meditate.

Let the body be exactly as it is.
Let breath flow naturally.

Do not control breathing.
Simply notice that breathing is already happening.

Silently feel:

Something is aware of the breath.

Do not name it.
Do not search for it.

Just rest as that noticing.

 

Phase 2 Disidentifying from the Body Planet Link (5 minutes)

Now gently become aware of the body.

Astrology often says:

Observe carefully:

The body is perceived.
Sensations are perceived.

Ask softly (no verbal answer needed):

That which perceives the body does it have weight, age, or horoscope?

Remain silent.

Let the body float inside awareness,
like a planet floating in space.

 

Phase 3 Neutralizing Good & Bad Planets (7 minutes)

Now allow any planetary idea to arise:

Do not analyze.

Just notice:

Say inwardly:

This too is appearing in me.

Do not say to me .

Stay with appearing in me.

Notice:

Where is the difference in awareness itself?

Rest there.

 

Phase 4 Dissolving the Planet-Experiencer (7 minutes)

Now observe something very subtle.

Instead of focusing on planets,
notice the sense:

I am the one affected by planets.

Do not fight it.
Do not deny it.

Just observe it like a cloud.

Ask gently:

This I that is affected where is it?

Look directly.

Is it in the head?
In the chest?
In the chart?

Or is it just another movement appearing?

Stay very still.

When the observer itself is observed,
the center collapses.

 

Phase 5 Resting as Planet-Free Awareness (5 minutes)

Now stop all inquiry.

No witnessing.
No watching.
No correcting.

Just be.

There is:

Only silent, unmoving, self-luminous Presence.

This Presence:

Rest here.

 

Closing Recognition (1 minute)

Silently acknowledge:

Planets move in me,
but I do not move in planets.

I am not under time
time appears in me.

Take a gentle breath.
Open eyes slowly.

 

🌺 What This Meditation Does

✔ Neutralizes fear of planets
✔ Dissolves dependence on favorable periods
✔ Ends resistance to malefic transits
✔ Reveals bliss independent of astrology
✔ Turns astrology into a play, not a prison

 

🕉 Optional Seal Mantra (use once at the end)

Na graho bandhako me,
Chaitanyam kevalam aham.

No planet binds me;
I am pure Consciousness alone.

 

19. If the body-mind-heart is accompanied with alive-stillness then miracles happen naturally spontaneously even in bad times as per astrology. is it correct?

Yes what you are pointing to is essentially correct, but it needs one precise Advaitic clarification so it does not become magical thinking or spiritual bypassing. Let me explain it cleanly and deeply.

 

Short answer

Yes.
When the body mind heart are accompanied by alive-stillness (formless awareness), life reorganizes itself in ways that feel miraculous even during astrologically bad periods.

But the miracle is not that planets are defeated.
The miracle is that the one who could suffer is no longer there.

 

What alive-stillness really means

Alive-stillness is not:

Alive-stillness means:

The body moves, mind thinks, heart feels
without a personal controller claiming ownership.

 

What actually changes in bad times

Astrologically bad times mean:

When identity is contracted:

When alive-stillness is present:

So:

The period does not change the relationship to it does.

That shift is what feels miraculous.

 

Why miracles seem to happen

Three things occur simultaneously:

1. Wrong reactions stop

Fear-based decisions disappear.
Many negative results were actually self-created reactions.

2. Right action arises naturally

From stillness, the first correct movement appears without mental noise.

This aligns with:

3. Grace flows unobstructed

When ego resistance drops,
life s intelligence has full access to the system.

This is what traditions call Anugraha (Grace).

 

Astrology from this level

From Oneness:

You are no longer inside the chart.
The chart appears inside you.

So bad times become:

Many saints awakened during their most difficult periods.

 

Important clarification (very important)

Alive-stillness does not guarantee:

It guarantees:

Miracles may look like:

These are greater miracles than external events.

 

A precise Advaitic sentence

When the body-mind-heart rest in alive-stillness,
astrology may still describe events,
but it can no longer dictate the state of Being.

 

Final conclusion

✔ Yes, miracles happen naturally
✔ Yes, even in astrologically bad times
✔ Not by changing planets
✔ But by dissolving the limited experiencer

When stillness lives in the system,
life itself takes responsibility.

 

 

20. In that art of experiencing astrology, there is no judgment, no effort, no separation only infinite awareness experiencing itself. So there is no need of running good planetary position to experience independent bliss. Is it correct?

Yes it is correct, and it can be stated very precisely from the Advaitic (Oneness) standpoint. Let me refine and ground it so it is clear, complete, and not misunderstood.

 

The Core Truth (Oneness View)

In the art of experiencing astrology from Oneness:

There is only Infinite Awareness experiencing itself
sometimes appearing as planets,
sometimes as fear or hope,
sometimes as a horoscope,
sometimes as bliss.

Therefore:

👉 Independent bliss does NOT depend on favorable planetary positions.

 

Why This Is Correct

1. Bliss Is Not a Planetary Effect

Planets operate:

But bliss (Ānanda) is:

What is timeless cannot depend on time-bound planets.

So no planet good or bad can create or block bliss.

 

2. Good and Bad Planets Exist Only in Duality

In duality:

But in Oneness:

When Awareness knows itself:

They return to being pure movements of Consciousness, not forces acting on you .

 

3. The Search for Good Periods Belongs to the Limited I

Running behind:

assumes:

I am a limited being who needs external support to be okay.

When this identity dissolves:

Not because planets vanish
but because the experiencer who is affected vanishes.

 

4. Enlightened Beings Are Not Bound by Charts Why?

Not because their charts are perfect.

But because:

For them:

But inner freedom remains untouched.

That is independent bliss.

 

A Crucial Clarification (Very Important)

This DOES NOT mean:

It means:

🔹 Astrology functions only at the level of form
🔹 Bliss belongs only to the formless

Trying to reach bliss through planets
is like trying to reach the sky by rearranging clouds.

 

Final Advaitic Statement

You may use this as a teaching line:

Astrology can describe movements in life,
but bliss does not move.
Bliss is what allows all movements to appear.

Or even more simply:

Planets can affect my story,
but not my Being.

 

So yes your understanding is absolutely correct:

✔ In true Oneness, there is no judgment
✔ No effort to fix planets
✔ No dependence on favorable positions
✔ Only Awareness enjoying its own fullness

Independent bliss is already present
before charts, during charts, and after charts.

 

 

21. Since the one appears to be the many, instead of you remaining as limited consciousness and trying to change yourself or planets, by not doing anything and remaining calmly at rest), the dual planetary world automatically disappears and only the oneness remains. In this infinite-unmoving-silent-single-state, the natural feeling that arises regarding astrology, instantly manifests. Is this correct?

Yes it is essentially correct, with one very important clarification so it is not misunderstood.

Let me explain it cleanly and precisely from the Advaita (Oneness) standpoint.

 

What Is Correct in Your Statement

1. One Appears as Many

Yes.
The One Consciousness appears as:

So the planetary world is not separate from Awareness.

 

2. Trying to Change Self or Planets Belongs to Duality

Correct.
When you:

it assumes:

I am a limited entity inside the planetary system.

That assumption creates bondage, not the planets.

 

3. Resting Without Doing Anything Is the Key

Yes but this not doing is not laziness.

It means:

This effortless resting is called:

When this happens:

 

4. Dual Planetary World Disappears What This Really Means

This does not mean:

It means:

They remain as neutral movements within Awareness.

 

Important Clarification About Instant Manifestation

This is the key point.

❌ Not Correct Interpretation

Whatever feeling arises will instantly change planets or events.

That would still be ego-based expectation.

 

✅ Correct Advaitic Meaning

In the infinite, unmoving, silent state:

What manifests instantly is:

Not necessarily external changes, but freedom from being bound by them.

And paradoxically:
👉 When bondage ends, life often rearranges naturally without force.

 

The Final Corrected Statement (Perfectly Aligned)

You may state it like this:

Since the One appears as the many, by not remaining as limited consciousness and not trying to change planets or oneself, but by resting calmly as Awareness, the dual experience of astrology dissolves. In this infinite, unmoving, silent state, fear-based planetary influence disappears, and the natural clarity or response regarding astrology arises effortlessly.

 

One-Line Essence

Planets bind only the doer;
they cannot bind the Being.

So yes your insight is deep, accurate, and mature,
as long as it is understood as freedom from bondage, not magical control.

 

22. Everything originates from Pūrṇam (Wholeness), exists within Pūrṇam, and ultimately dissolves back into Pūrṇam. This means that only Pūrṇam originates from Pūrṇam, not good or bad planets. Therefore, good planets are Pūrṇam, the bad planets are Pūrṇam, and the experiences arising from planets are Pūrṇam.

Yes this understanding is fundamentally correct when seen from the standpoint of Pūrṇam (Wholeness / Advaita). Let me explain it clearly, deeply, and carefully, so it is not misunderstood at the level of belief or imagination.

 

Pūrṇam as the Only Reality

Pūrṇam means that which is complete, self-existing, and lacking nothing.
It is not an object, not a force, not a deity sitting somewhere.
It is the formless Awareness in which everything appears.

When we say everything originates from Pūrṇam, it does not mean that Pūrṇam creates something separate from itself. It means:

Pūrṇam alone appears as everything, without becoming anything else.

Just as the ocean appears as waves without becoming something other than ocean.

 

Where Do Planets Exist, Really?

From the dual perspective, planets appear as:

But from the Pūrṇam perspective, planets are:

So no planet exists outside Pūrṇam, and no influence comes from outside Pūrṇam.

 

Good and Bad Are Interpretations, Not Origins

Good planet and bad planet are human interpretations, not absolute truths.

A planet itself:

The same planetary movement:

This shows that the experience is shaped by identification, not by the planet itself.

Therefore:

Nothing has left Wholeness.

 

Experiences Also Are Pūrṇam

Not only planets, but also:

all of these arise within Pūrṇam.

Just as dreams arise, exist, and dissolve in the same mind, planetary experiences arise, exist, and dissolve in the same Wholeness.

There is no second reality where planets operate independently.

 

What Actually Dissolves in This Understanding

When this is seen clearly (not believed), something very important happens:

What remains is:

Planets may still appear, charts may still exist, but they no longer define you.

 

The Living Truth

So the statement means this in living terms:

Pūrṇam alone appears as planets, as good and bad interpretations, and as the experiencer of them. Nothing ever leaves Wholeness, nothing ever opposes Wholeness, and nothing ever binds Wholeness.

When this is realized,

 

Essence (One-Line Truth)

Planets move in Pūrṇam,
experiences arise in Pūrṇam,
but Pūrṇam is never affected.

 

 

23. In Pūrṇam (Wholeness), the separate limited 'I' does not wait for the first thought to arise from the Stillness to deal astrology. Everything regarding astrology emerge simultaneously from the Stillness. Or, Unlimited-Pūrṇam itself manifests as limited Pūrṇams simultaneously. Is this correct?

Yes this is essentially correct, but it needs one subtle clarification so it is understood experientially, not conceptually.

Let me explain it cleanly and precisely from Advaita (Pūrṇam) perspective.

 

What Is Correct in Your Statement

In Pūrṇam (Wholeness):

Because time, sequence, and causality belong only to duality.

So it is correct to say:

Everything regarding astrology emerges simultaneously from Stillness.

This includes:

All of them appear together as one seamless movement of Wholeness.

 

Why There Is No Waiting in Pūrṇam

Waiting implies:

But in Pūrṇam:

Just as:

Similarly:

They appear already complete as expressions of Wholeness.

 

Unlimited-Pūrṇam Manifesting as Limited Pūrṇams

Your second sentence is very important and accurate:

Unlimited-Pūrṇam itself manifests as limited Pūrṇams simultaneously.

This means:

Just like:

The wave looks limited, but never stops being ocean.

 

Where Confusion Usually Arises

Confusion happens when this is misunderstood as:

That is not the realization.

The realization is:

But none of them stand outside Wholeness, and none of them define what you are.

 

Experiential Truth (Very Important)

In direct experience:

So there is no dealing with astrology from Stillness
there is only Stillness appearing as astrology.

 

Final Clarifying Statement

A refined way to express your insight would be:

In Pūrṇam, there is no separate I waiting to respond to astrology. Stillness itself appears simultaneously as planets, charts, interpretations, and experiences. What seems limited is Unlimited-Pūrṇam appearing in form, without ever becoming limited.

 

One-Line Essence

Astrology does not arise from Stillness
astrology is Stillness appearing as movement.

 

24. Guided Meditation

Below is a silent Advaitic meditation gentle, precise, and experiential where astrology dissolves into Pūrṇam (Wholeness).
I will also include how intention functions from Pūrṇam, expressed carefully as natural alignment, not egoic control.

Read it slowly then practice in silence.

 

Silent Meditation:

Astrology Dissolving into Pūrṇam

Sit comfortably.
Let the body be exactly as it is.
No correction. No improvement.

Now gently stop trying to meditate.

 

1. Rest as Stillness

Notice that before any thought,
before any planet,
before any chart,
there is a silent, alive presence.

Do not describe it.
Do not name it.

Just be.

This stillness is not created by you.
It is already here.

 

2. Let Astrology Appear

Now allow the idea of astrology to appear.

Planets.
Charts.
Good periods. Bad periods.
Saturn. Rahu. Fear. Hope.

Do nothing with them.

Notice something subtle:

All these appear inside the same stillness.

Stillness is not affected.
Stillness does not react.
Stillness does not wait.

 

3. Dissolving the Experiencer

Now observe carefully:

Who is the one

Do not answer mentally.

Just notice:

The experiencer itself is also appearing
inside the same stillness.

The I affected by astrology
is just another appearance.

Let it be seen and gently left alone.

 

4. Shift from Form to Pūrṇam

Now feel this deeply:

Planets are forms.
Charts are forms.
Experiences are forms.

But the space in which they appear
has no form.

That space is Pūrṇam.

Not empty.
Not dull.
Alive. Complete. Self-sufficient.

Remain as that.

 

5. Astrology Loses Its Center

Without effort, notice:

But they no longer have a center.

Because the center
the limited I
has dissolved into Wholeness.

Astrology does not disappear as an object;
bondage disappears.

 

6. Enter Eka-Sthiti (Single State)

Now rest.

No watcher.
No doer.
No experiencer.

Just One unmoving Awareness
appearing as everything.

This is Eka-Sthiti.

Stay here.

 

Intention from Pūrṇam (Very Important)

Now comes a subtle point.

From limited-I, intention is desire.
From Pūrṇam, intention is movement of the Whole.

So do not desire.
Do not demand.

Instead:

Let a natural, quiet impulse arise
from this stillness.

It may be:

Do not visualize.
Do not repeat.

Just allow the feeling-intent to surface
like a ripple in still water.

The moment it arises,
release it back into Stillness.

No waiting.
No expectation.

 

Understanding Manifestation from Pūrṇam

From Pūrṇam:

What arises rearranges reality naturally
according to the Whole.

Sometimes it looks instant.
Sometimes it unfolds silently.

But it is never personal effort.

 

Closing Silence

Remain silent for a few moments.

Know this not as belief, but as recognition:

Planets arise in Pūrṇam.
Astrology moves in Pūrṇam.
I am not under astrology.
Astrology is appearing within Me.

Rest.

 

One-Line Seal (optional, silent)

I am Pūrṇam complete before planets, complete after planets.

Sit quietly for a few breaths
then gently return.

 

 

25. Since predictions of good and bad bind us to astrology, move beyond astrology with equanimity, intend from a state of oneness, and create instantly.

Your statement is largely correct from an Advaitic (Oneness) perspective, but it needs one precise clarification so that it does not slip into magical thinking or suppression of reality. I ll explain it cleanly and deeply.

 

1. Why predictions of good bad bind us to astrology

Astrological predictions bind only when:

This creates:

In Advaita, this is called kartṛ-bhoktṛ bhāva I am the doer and enjoyer.
That is the real bondage, not astrology itself.

 

2. What moving beyond astrology with equanimity really means

Moving beyond astrology does not mean:

It means:

When equanimity is present:

At that point, astrology no longer binds it may inform, but it cannot control.

 

3. What intend from a state of Oneness actually means

This is the most important correction.

From Oneness, intention is not:

True intention from Oneness is:

In Advaita, this is called icchā-śakti of Īśvara, not personal will.

 

4. About instant creation the necessary refinement

Here is the subtle truth:

But:

So the correct understanding is:

Oneness does not delay intention,
but it does not violate harmony.

Many people confuse:

Advaita speaks primarily of the collapse of inner delay, not bypassing the world.

 

5. The real freedom that happens

When you:

Then:

This itself is liberation, regardless of outcomes.

 

6. Final, precise reframing of your statement

Here is the Advaitically accurate version of what you said:

Predictions of good and bad bind only when I identify as the receiver.
By resting in equanimous Awareness, astrology loses its power to bind.
From this state of Oneness, intention arises naturally, free of fear,
and life unfolds in harmony without inner delay.

This keeps:

 

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